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hotrod
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 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: Is Chrysler moving away from hybrids and toward E85? |
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Two interesting developments have my curiosity peaked.
Chrysler announced that they are not doing a hybrid but focusing on improving performance of conventional engines. They are saying they are a money loser for everyone who is selling them. So that raises the question how long will these companies bite the financial bullet to get the hybrid PR?
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/01/12/chrysler-says-hybridsfor/
They also have a new engine that supposedly produces no loss in performance (fuel mileage ?) on E85.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html
It will also be coming out in a turbocharged format in the near future.
With adjustable cam phasing they may be able to control the effective dynamic compression ratio on the fly.
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Eric68
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Is Chrysler moving away from hybrids and toward E85? |
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They also have a new engine that supposedly produces no loss in performance (fuel mileage ?) on E85.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html
It will also be coming out in a turbocharged format in the near future.
With adjustable cam phasing they may be able to control the effective dynamic compression ratio on the fly.
Larry |
That is what I've been waiting for . . . the technology has been there for a while, it's nice to see someone trying to make a go of it.
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440Jim
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Is Chrysler moving away from hybrids and toward E85? |
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The only statement I see on that page is:
The engine can take regular gasoline or E85 fuel without degradation in performance or emissions.
So the word "performance" can mean anything, including power but not fuel mileage. I would prefer to see it built with like 12 CR for E85 and self adjust for lower performance on gasoline. Then people would be more likely to run E85 (unlike the current flex fuel vehicles). |
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hotrod
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Yes that is why I had the question mark in the original post.
It is unclear how they are defining "performance", could be fuel economy on both fuels, could be power and torque, could be emissions or some combination of those variables.
I think the more important issue though is that they are publicly turning their back on the hybrid electric cars, in favor of better engineered conventional engines.
Only time will tell.
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