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future ethanol production "hotspots"

 
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imprezarsc



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: future ethanol production "hotspots" Reply with quote

I've been wanting to write this down and share it for a while. Most of the members here know by now that anything that ferments can make ethanol. So...where do most of the fruits/veges that ferment exist? Well, consider all the different veges and fruits that are grown here.

1. Apples - WA, OR, CA

2. Potatoes - ID

3. Corn - midwest (been covered. I'm looking at other areas)

4. Citrus - (someone care to expand on this part? What's FL/GA/CA up to?)

5. Rice - perfect for hurricane stricken areas in the Gulf

6. Wheat/Barley - Coors is already in the fuel business it seems Wink. I had a good chat with a gentleman at Merrick & Co who built the refinery for it.

7. Honey? You can make wine with it, but I don't know if it can be converted as cellulosic ethanol.

8. Switchgrass - been covered

9? 10? 11? Brainstorm fellas! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugar beets -- colorado and other high plains states
Not too many years ago we had a thriving sugar beet industry here.
You can still see sugar beet processing facililites in Longmont, and Ft. Morgan.
sugar cane -- Hawaii and gulf coast.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that I read of a fuel ethanol plant using leftover potatoes cuttings (maybe from an Ore-Ida plant?); and one using dairy whey (in Wisconsin?). My guess is, anything which can be used to make sugar, wine, beer or liquor is a possible fuel source.

I'll edit this if I can find links.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I GIS'd sugar beets and that's the largest commodity of ethanol in France. It also ranks above corn in it's net return. 200 million gallons were made from their own crops. We've got more land mass than that around here that can grow it. I wonder if that's why Colorado, Nebraska, and Wyoming are jumping on the bandwagon?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to stoke the fire a bit more. Nurturing this along might be a good thing. Colorado sugar beet production has declined since 1999. Peak production then was 1.46 million tons. What i'm looking for but not finding is production figures. Say, does (one ton = X gallons of ethanol). What are the production estimates of ethanol per ton of a given material?

I'm also reading a skosh on the western sugar co-op. Does anyone have info on different co-ops hopping on the bandwagon? I figure they'll be the ones to lead local charges into the industry for farmers.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can get figures for how much refined sugar can come from a ton of sugarbeets, that would be a start. You could do the same with sugar cane, and find some numbers for ethanol production from sugar cane.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently posted about Orange Peels as feedstock.

http://thesins.blogspot.com/2006/04/pride-yet-another-newish-ethanol.html
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