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big454
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 Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: I ordered a quick fuel e85 conversion kit for a 4500 holley. |
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I am having problems with the boosters not fitting unless I mill them. Is it ok to mill the booster to get them to slide down into the bores?
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Drag Chevette
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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your boosters are somewhere around .317"
and you need to end up with around .279" to fit your dominator....
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317 - 279 = .038
the booster pin needs to stay centered so:
.038 / 2 = .019
you take .019" from each side of the booster and it should press into the mainbody....the booster pin should slide straight in.....
the way i do it is machine one side from .317 - .019 to an over all width of .298.
then I machine the other side from .298 - .019 down to .279, this should center the booster pin.
I build E85 carbs, and have done alot of them.
after you get done, if its still not running right, I will convert it for you....
and being that you have most of the correct parts, I will Knock $50 off my regular Dominator conversion price of $475.
Mark Sullens 573 694-4088 |
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big454
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I have one of the boosters in there , but the pin is not centered. Guess I took off to much off one side . Do you think I can still work with this booster . I will mill a little more to get it centered. The other 3 I will make sure only .019 is milled off each side.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| big454 wrote: | | I have one of the boosters in there , but the pin is not centered. |
that booster is trash....toss it and buy another.
| Quote: | | Guess I took off to much off one side . Do you think I can still work with this booster . |
see above quote.
| Quote: | | I will mill a little more to get it centered. |
it has to be a press in fit, taking too much will cause slop and could result in a booster coming apart and falling in your engine at 7000rpm....be safe, change the booster.
| Quote: | | The other 3 I will make sure only .019 is milled off each side. |
better double check your widths, my figures were an example.
you might need to move that .019 +/- about .005 to get the snug press in fit depending on where your starting......do the math, use some calipers and figure yours out.
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big454
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Drag Chevette wrote: | | big454 wrote: | | I have one of the boosters in there , but the pin is not centered. |
that booster is trash....toss it and buy another.
| Quote: | | Guess I took off to much off one side . Do you think I can still work with this booster . |
see above quote.
| Quote: | | I will mill a little more to get it centered. |
it has to be a press in fit, taking too much will cause slop and could result in a booster coming apart and falling in your engine at 7000rpm....be safe, change the booster.
| Quote: | | The other 3 I will make sure only .019 is milled off each side. |
better double check your widths, my figures were an example.
you might need to move that .019 +/- about .005 to get the snug press in fit depending on where your starting......do the math, use some calipers and figure yours out. |
Thanks, for the help . Will measure to be sure of widths. Also need to know where I could order another booster. My conversion is starting to be a pain in the **zz.
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Drag Chevette
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| big454 wrote: |
Thanks, for the help . Will measure to be sure of widths. |
no problem....sure would have been nice to know this stuff before you started huh?...too bad there wasnt this info in the instructions.
| Quote: | | Also need to know where I could order another booster |
quick fuel ....call them directly and tell them what happened...they may send you just one.????
| Quote: | | My conversion is starting to be a pain in the **zz. |
dont you wish you would have called me first?........  |
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Eric68
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Now be nice Mr Sullens. You're getting a might bit crotchety on a guy who has the guts to do it himself . . . 
That being said though, I agree that a new booster is in order. They're cheap and its only a few days to get one shipped out.
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Drag Chevette
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Eric68 wrote: | | Now be nice Mr Sullens. You're getting a might bit crotchety |
What kind of word is that?..lol
OK, you may be right I may have been a little tough on him, no harm intended.
| Quote: | | a guy who has the guts to do it himself . . . |
I respect that, really I can....Im not mad at him for not calling me, I get mad at these companies that send people "KITS" and fail to enlighten them on all the other little details that should be done....Im sure he just didnt know.
I would like to see how many people put the quick fuel blocks in and are having the bowl empty in a few days because they used the blocks on a holley main body....
or how many people dont know to change the air bleeds.
| Quote: | | That being said though, I agree that a new booster is in order. They're cheap and its only a few days to get one shipped out. |
I heard this somewhere before......lol.
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440Jim
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| Drag Chevette wrote: | | I get mad at these companies that send people "KITS" and fail to enlighten them on all the other little details that should be done.... |
I agree. Imagine the guy that thought it was a
"bolt-on" kit and finds out the boosters need a machine shop. Or 2-circuit vs 3 circuit carb? |
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big454
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Ok, it's me again. Justed wanted to post an update. I called quick fuel about this kit . Well, this kit is for a 3 circuit carb and I've got a 2 circuit dominator. I will be sending the main body to them so they can turn in into a 3 circuit (80$) . They will be installing the correct boosters for me. The boosters that came with the kit are for a "newer" dominator . So , I will send this main body out on Monday .
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big454
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:37 am Post subject: |
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The main reason I am doing the conversion is to make it have less of a hit on my wallet . I want to drive it to cruise ins and to work once in a blue moon. Here's a small vid clip
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Drag Chevette
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| big454 wrote: | | The main reason I am doing the conversion is to make it have less of a hit on my wallet . |
lets see if you get the total track proven conversion done for less than $475.....$475 is what I charge to do a proven/tuned conversion on a 4500 and I pay return shipping.
Im thinking your probibly close to or over that $475 now with parts, shipping and all.....and its not even tuned or on the car yet.
when your ready, let me know and I will fix it for you.....even cut you a deal...$425 and I will still pay shipping.
...ever stop and ask if maybe you should have sent it to me to start with?....you would be driving it by now. |
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big454
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Believe me , at this point I am sure I would have been better of with just sending it in to you. But I chose quick fuel (for not knowing any better) and have got a kit on my lap that I already commited to using. I talked to a guy named Derrick at quick fuel and he's been helpful with my problem.
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themudymexican
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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i have to say Mark knows his stuff, wish I had just bought my carb from him to begin with. Maybe some one will learn from my mistakes 
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| themudymexican wrote: | | i have to say Mark knows his stuff, wish I had just bought my carb from him to begin with. Maybe some one will learn from my mistakes |
Jay, thank you for your confidence in me,
Jay is a mud racer that did what I feel was really well this past weekend...6th out of 25 racers.
he was the first to go all the way through 150' x 3-4' deep mud pit, and yes, he went out the end.
Jay had a QFT E85 Carb that had some issues...I will let him elaborate on that if he chooses.
but anyway, I modified it up to meet his needs and the thing screamed.
listen to this small block mopar scream......click the screen!
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