E85Forum.com Fueling the E85 community    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Special Oil?          E85Forum.com Forum Index -> open forum on E85 ethanol fuel View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message MoparFFV Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Special Oil? I am wanting to make the switch over to E85 with my 2004 Dodge Stratus. It is equiped from the factory to run E85 but I am getting conflicting messages from my dealer and my owners manual. The owners manual says to use only Mopar 5W-30 FFV oil or equivalent matching manufacturers standard "MS-9214". The dealer says any oil is fine. Who is right? What do I need to use? I don't want to void my warrenty, but I also don't want to pay through the nose for "special oil" if it isn't needed. Thanks! Back to top Lgodave Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 28 Location: WI Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Hi, It's my understanding that Chrysler (Dodge) FFV's still require a special FFV Oil. The other major brands have waived any special oil requirements. If you want to get a "third" opinion from Chrysler you may try their Customer Assistance Center. http://www.chrysler.com/universal/C/index.jsp?actionURL=/wccs/brand_forms/us/input.jsp&titleStr=Contact+Chrysler&leftNavURL=/wccs/brand_forms/us/templates/C/left.jsp&franchise=C&familyStr=brand&family=brand&appStr=wccs&prefix= Let us know what they say. You did tell the Dealer you where going to run E85 AND that you had read about the FFV Oil in the Owner's Manual? A visit to the Dealer and asking that they "Prove" the "any oil is fine" statement. Chrysler should have a TSB in the system somewhere talking about current FFVs and E85 requirements/issues. Back to top hotrod Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 872 Location: Colorado Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Quote: When operating a vehicle on M-85 fuel either full or part time, use of a specific flexible fuel engine oil such as Chryslers MS-9214 or equivalent if necessary. Equivalent oils may be labeled Multi-Fuel, Variable Fuel, Flexible Fuel ect. These engine oils may be satisfactory if met with the Chrysler standards. I think the key sentence here, Equivalent oils may be labeled Multi-Fuel, Variable Fuel, Flexible Fuel ect. These engine oils may be satisfactory if met with the Chrysler standards. I would check out the small print on some oil containers to see if you find similar language. I found this response in one web forum run by the Department of Energy: http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/progs/tvwb/tvwb.cgi Quote: Re: Engine Oil Selection for E85 Chrysler Vehicle August 13, 2005 from Why Can't Chrysler? Although DaimlerChrysler has made E85 FFVs since 1998, they have yet to drop the 'special oil' requirement. One might ask why all the other manufacturers have, yet Chrysler has been unable to. Personally, I know of one large state fleet (~1300 FFVs) and one large federal fleet (~700 FFVs) that use ONLY standard oil in all of their FFVs and have for several years without incident. In fact, one of these fleets uses re-refined oil in all of its engines. One company rep told me to "use the special oil if you use E85 100% of the time, but don't worry about it if you use some of the time." [[How is a service tech supposed to know how often you use it? It is my personal belief this is a simple warranty issue that Chrysler has been unwilling to drop. I doubt many of the thousands of Chrysler minivans are using the special oil. Back to top MoparFFV Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: UPDATE I had my oil changed at a local garage I use. The oil cost me $0.90 more than the standard oil for all 5 quarts. I have run over 600 miles with E85 and my mileage is averaging about 20.5 mpg versus about 24 with regular unleaded. So far so good... Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         E85Forum.com Forum Index -> open forum on E85 ethanol fuel All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Discussions----------------THIS FORUM IS MOVING TO E85FORUM.NETopen forum on E85 ethanol fuelNuts and Bolts  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group