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Anyone tried it with a rotary engine

 
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AbortRetryFail



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Anyone tried it with a rotary engine Reply with quote

I've got a 1986 Mazda RX7 Idea i'd like to see if i can run on at least part ethanol. (they're building a plant in lakeland FL and some local stations are supposed to get E85 pumps)

Im aware i might have to change fuel injector o-rings, fuel pump and fuel lines. I'll be getting a programmable ECU once they finish testing on the N/A verison (Rtek7 2.0 chip) These cars have a nasty habit of running pretty rich to begin with.

But this concerns me: Ethanol will wash engine oil off engine components. Mazda's rotary engine uses a metering oil injection system which injects engine oil to lubricate the rotors and rotor housings. Many people just disable this system and use a pre-mix 2-stroke oil with gasoline. (especially when building race rotary engines)

Can you use a 2-stroke oil with ethanol? Does anyone make a specific kind?
Any ideas? It doesnt seem like anyone has tried this before. Smile
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hotrod



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Location: Colorado

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want to touch base with the folks that are developing AGE-85 which is the E-85 equivalent fuel being developed for general aviation.

They are adding .5 -1% biodiesel to the fuel to improve corrosion resistance and lubricity of the fuel.

http://www.age85.org/Attachments/General%20Audience%20Presentation.ppt
http://www.westbioenergy.org/reports/55029/55029final.htm
www.cgar.org/Data/Projects/47/Files/Appendix%203%20Detonation%20Testing%20Report3792.doc


Some folks may want to also experiment with this in cars that have questionable corrosion resistance in their fuel systems.

Larry
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specialgreen
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe that ethanol "washes off" oil from chamber walls, but sort of the opposite: I think that once ethanol gets on cylinder walls, it can prevent oil from coating them. Mineral oil and E-85 don't mix (they separate).

I have had gasoline contamination of oil, and also E-85 contamination. The gasoline-contaminated oil was a murky, stinky mix; the E-85-contaminated oil separated in the pan.

A vegetable oil (like castor oil), or many synthetic oils do not have this problem. You may want to run Amsoil or Mobil 1.
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