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Eric68
Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 331
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Big 454,
I thought you should be aware that I just "fixed" an 1150 Dominator that was converted to E85 using the Quick Fuel kit. There were a couple problems that you should probably be away of -- although I admit I am not 100% sure that all the problems were the result of the Quickfuel kit.
The metering blocks were 3 circuit and he could not get the carb rich enough at WOT unless he added a bunch of fuel to the intermediate circuit. He was at #110 jets square and got "best" results with 1:1 linkage. If he got enough fuel at WOT it blubbered when driven in the pits (rich).
When I got the carb apart I also found that the Quickfuel booster ID was .210" That is closer to methanol size. The annular 12 hole boosters had also been modified with an extra 5 holes at the bottom of each booster insert. I don't know if Quickfuel did that or the customer.
I replaced the metering blocks with 2 circuit blocks that he provided that I worked over for E85. He insisted in using the same boosters and we were able to get the carb lean enough to cruise and plenty rich enough at WOT. These boosters proved to be very sensitive and pulled a lot of fuel very easily with a 2 circuit block.
My tuneup wound up with an #83 jet primary and a 100 secondary. Cruise and WOT were both appropriate AFRs.
Hope that helps. _________________ E85 racer and E85 carb builder
www.horsepowerinnovations.com
E85 powered 68 Camaro street car
Best ET on motor 9.96 @ 133 MPH, 5.92 on N2O in the 1/8th |
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big454
Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Eric68. It sure helps. I haven't purchased my E85 fuel yet. I need to get it from my supplier , who will be getting it from out of state. He will sell me the barrel for 155.00 . I need to know how to keep the fuel from getting moiture and rotting after I open the barrel. _________________ big454 |
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Alcohol
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 634 Location: Central Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| big454 wrote: | | Thanks Eric68. It sure helps. I haven't purchased my E85 fuel yet. I need to get it from my supplier , who will be getting it from out of state. He will sell me the barrel for 155.00 . I need to know how to keep the fuel from getting moiture and rotting after I open the barrel. |
As soon as you pull out enough for your short term needs- simply reseal the barrel, place it on 2x4's just off the ground, keep it in a dry safe place- such as an unheated shed and away from windows where sun will shine in and keep heating and cooling the barrel. You dont need to worry about the air that gets in the barrel in the short time you have the barrel open-- you just need to prevent long term exposure to air that occurs with free air exchange- like a barrel missing it's plug. Really- storing E85 is no different than good practices followed to store gasoline. |
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Gran Touring Labs

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 129
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Alcohol wrote: | | big454 wrote: | | Thanks Eric68. It sure helps. I haven't purchased my E85 fuel yet. I need to get it from my supplier , who will be getting it from out of state. He will sell me the barrel for 155.00 . I need to know how to keep the fuel from getting moiture and rotting after I open the barrel. |
As soon as you pull out enough for your short term needs- simply reseal the barrel, place it on 2x4's just off the ground, keep it in a dry safe place- such as an unheated shed and away from windows where sun will shine in and keep heating and cooling the barrel. You dont need to worry about the air that gets in the barrel in the short time you have the barrel open-- you just need to prevent long term exposure to air that occurs with free air exchange- like a barrel missing it's plug. Really- storing E85 is no different than good practices followed to store gasoline. |
Phil, why is a good idea to store it off of the ground? Is it to keep the temperature more consistent? My containers are up on a shelf, but I never thought about it being a good idea in the first place. _________________ Can't leave well enough alone? Neither can we.
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Alcohol
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 634 Location: Central Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| My main reason for recommending the drum be stored off the ground is simply this-- with steel drums sitting on concrete or even a solid wood floor you get moisture build-up under the drum and on the lower lip. Eventually your steel drum will corrode in that lip- for safety sake let's avoid this by raising the drum enough to get air under it. Also- concrete is a relatively strong base (ph) that will accelerate steel corrosion. You have all seen what I mean when you have any container of fuel stored in an outbuilding and the fuel is colder than the air- the container will be soaking wet in a humid climate. While all this is also true of lube oil barrels in cold storage and humid climates- the concern is lessened due to lower firehazard and it's poor permeability into the soil, wood, or 'crete--AND- gasoline drums are far more likely to remain in service at your shop than an oil barrel returned for inspection, cleaning, repaint, and refill. |
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henrykipson
Joined: 01 Mar 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hello everyone...I want to convert petrol car with ethanol fuel due to mad increase in rates of petrol.Please help me.
http://www.ecofuelbox.com/ |
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hotrod
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 872 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Henry -- welcome to the board, unless you are using a 4500 series holley carburetor this is probably the wrong thread to ask for help in.
I suggest you start a thread of your own, and clearly state what kind of car you are working with, and a little background about your automotive skill.
Do you work on cars professionally or are you just a average guy trying to save some money on fuel cost?
Most of the information you need is probably already here on the forum but we cannot point you to the best threads without more information on the type year and make of car you are trying to adapt to run on E85.
Are you here in the United States or in Europe?
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